It’s sickening people have to file lawsuits at all. You have to show a birth certificate to get a driver’s license, why not to serve as President (where citizenship is a Constitutional requirement)? Sorry smrstrauss, I know you think the opposition needs to supply evidence of Kenyan birth in order to pursue this — but that is not the issue. The issue is that we should expect our President to at least be transparent enough to show a simple document required for almost anything in this country. It’s not a difficult request, simply produce it! Steve sent this in an email to me, it’s from NewsMax:
Team Obama:”All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage.”
According to the WorldNetDaily headline above, that was the retort of an Obama campaign spokesperson when asked about complaints requesting that Senator Obama produce a valid Birth Certificate to prove that he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states, “No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President.”
The Constitution of the United States is NOT “garbage” and furthermore, securing the rights of the people under the Constitution is NOT “garbage”!
The Obama campaign’s response is an elitist, condescending slap in the face to patriotic Americans. No one is above the law and Team Obama cannot make the question of Obama’s eligibility go away by disrespecting the American people - and, by inference, the Constitution of the United States.
That’s why we just filed an action that Senator Obama will not be able to ignore… an action that WILL NOT GO AWAY!
In fact, in my humble opinion… we will ONLY “LOSE” if we do NOT have the resources we need to carry on for as long as it takes, and we will “win” as long as we can carry on this fight (more on that later).
SO PLEASE KEEP READING… I promise that when you’re done, you will agree that we have filed the mother of all actions.
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Why The “Berg Case” Is Dead In The Water And Why USJF Will Succeed…
You probably already know that Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg filed a suit in U.S. District Court several months back contending that Senator Obama is not a “natural-born” citizen.
And you probably already know that the court dismissed the suit claiming that Berg, as a private citizen, “lacked standing to bring the case.”
Of course, Berg is not the only one who has filed an action and the “Berg Case” is not the only one in which the courts have relied upon the lack-of-standing technicality.
Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter denied an action saying to the plaintiff Rev. Tom Terry, “I don’t think you have standing to bring this suit.”
Washington State Superior Court Judge John Erlick dismissed yet another suit ruling that even the Secretary of State did not have authority to inquire about Senator Obama’s birth certificate.
Can you believe it? What’s going on? Well, perhaps Berg said it best;
“This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don’t have standing, if you don’t have standing, if your neighbor doesn’t have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be president of the United States - the commander in chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?”
Of course, Berg’s statement also illustrates why the “Berg Case” and some of these other actions are doomed to fail and why we believe our action WILL succeed!
Simply stated, the lack-of-standing argument is already out there. Yes, it’s egregious but the all too sad reality is that judges will continue to grab onto it like a life-preserver now that it has been put into play… the die has been cast!
That’s why USJF is taking a different approach. Our petitioners are Dr. Alan Keyes, Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr. and Markham Robinson!
We state in the Petition we just filed with the court:
“The parties in this case have standing to bring this litigation, due to the fact that Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake, Sr., are candidates on the California ballot for President and Vice President of the United States, and Mr. Robinson is an Elector for the Keyes-Drake ticket, and Vice Chairman of America’s Independent Party, of Fenton, Michigan, which nominated Dr. Keyes for President. He is also a Chairman of the American Independent Party (California), which nominated Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake for President and Vice President, respectively. Based on the foregoing, it is imperative for SOS to be provided proof that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen.”
Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake were actually on the ballot in California and Markham Robinson is an Elector for Keyes-Drake. If they don’t have standing, one would be hard-pressed to find ANYONE who has standing and if the court attempts to use the lack-of-standing argument, it’s an implied admission that NO ONE has standing to enforce the Constitution!
The Usurper-in-Chief…
Now… a dose of reality. Frankly, a case of this magnitude could be in the courts for years. There are no quick solutions… BUT THAT’S OKAY.
The key is in the following statement which also appears in the Petition:
“Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that an usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.”
Part of that statement bears repeating:
“… none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.”
In other words, as long as this case is in the courts, a cloud hangs over Senator Obama’s head and for the sake of our Constitution and our Republic, the issue MUST be resolved!
If President Obama issues an Executive Order to rescind the Mexico City Policy and allows the tax dollars of Americans to fund organizations that promote abortions overseas, the door to question the legitimacy of that Executive Order remains open.
If President Obama signs a treaty with an unfriendly power or an agreement with the United Nations, the door to question the legitimacy of that treaty remains open.
If President Obama signs a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens into law, the door to question the legitimacy of that law remains open.
If President Obama appoints new Commissioners to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) who bring back the so-called Fairness Doctrine, the door to question those appointments and the legitimacy of the actions taken by his appointees remains open.
That’s not to say that he can’t or won’t be able to fulfill the duties of his office, but until this matter is resolved… until he can validate that he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States, the door will always remain open to question and challenge the legitimacy of his actions and the dire consequences of those actions.
In short… as long as we have the resources to fight, we’re ahead of the game!
That’s where you come in.
The United States Justice Foundation (USJF) is a nonprofit public interest, legal action organization and has been your conservative voice in the courts since 1979. And since USJF is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, your generous assistance is also TAX DEDUCTIBLE!
You can use this link or the hyperlink below to help - it’s TAX DEDUCTIBLE. Is it worth a TAX DEDUCTIBLE effort of $5000 or $2500 or even $100 or $50 or $25 to defend the Constitution and the integrity of our electoral process?
The Obama campaign has a crack team of high-priced law firms - that’s not three lawyers but THREE LAW FIRMS - that will use every means that money can buy to fight this action. We’re relying on you and patriotic Americans like you.
https://secure.conservativedonations.com/usjf_house/?a=1926
Please use the hyperlink above to make your best TAX-DEDUCTIBLE effort to be a part of this battle.
I’m Not Living In The Real World…
To be brutally blunt, a case of this magnitude may not be won or lost on the merits.
I’m very proud of USJF’s accomplishments over the past 29 years.
We’ve defended Minuteman Civil Defense Corps members protecting our borders from illegal aliens.
We handled litigation against Hillary Clinton for campaign finance fraud in her 2000 Senate race.
We’ve submitted testimony before the United States Senate on Supreme Court appointees.
But all that won’t really matter. It won’t matter which side has the most skilled attorneys. Talent, competence and experience do not assure victory.
Here’s the bottom line.
Team Obama presently has THREE LAW FIRMS at its disposal - and a seemingly unlimited ability to raise funds from the far-left for more legal help.
This potentially translates to hundreds of attorneys and law clerks who can literally throw paperwork at us until we crack under the sheer pressure and cry uncle.
Team Obama WILL try to wear us down (which by the way is yet another reason why the “Berg Case” and many of the others - as mentioned earlier - are doomed to fail and why we CAN get the job done).
They’ll stall and delay and throw paperwork at us so fast, so furiously and for so long… then they’ll wait for us to break under the strain and give up. Or so they think…
Team Obama doesn’t fear our skill or the merits of our case.
The ONLY THING THEY FEAR IS YOU!
They hope and pray that you will not support our efforts or that you will grow tired of the fight. What they fear most is that you will join us and support our efforts!
They know that if you support us, we’ll have the ability to take on additional clerical and research staff, cover court fees, file briefs and take on outside counsel on an as-needed basis.
That’s why they’re praying you don’t help us… but we’re praying that you do!
USJF wasn’t approached by a group of hot-shot movers and shakers. We took on this burden because like you we love this great country and we REFUSE to stand idly by while the Left disrespects the Constitution, the American people and our electoral process.
USJF is a nonprofit public interest, legal action organization. We go where others fear to tread. We’re adept at taking on vastly superior forces. And we’re committed to hitting the trenches on this one and willing to get bloody if we must.
That’s our promise to you.
But, in the end, our commitment and our “pit-bull” determination doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
Winning or losing is NOT in our control… and it’s not in Team Obama’s control… IT’S IN YOUR HANDS!
A lot of folks are very angry over Barack Obama’s refusal to validate his eligibility to be President of the United States.
In His Service,
Gary Kreep, Executive Director
United States Justice Foundation
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on Nov 28th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Re: You have to show a birth certificate to get a driver’s license, why not to serve as President (where citizenship is a Constitutional requirement)?
There are two answers to this: Yes, you do have to show a birth certificate to get a driver’s license, but that does NOT mean a birth certificate from a hospital. It means a birth certificate from a state, which is what Obama showed to get his driver’s license and his passport. In the case of Hawaii, the legal document issued by the state is the certification of live birth which in Obama’s case says on it that he was born in Hawaii.
Second specifically regarding ” why not to serve as President (where citizenship is a Constitutional requirement)?”
It turns out we have never asked a president or a presidential candidate to show a birth certificate before. Maybe we should have, but we have not asked. I mean we all believe that John Quincy Adams was born in the USA, but did he show proof? Did Taft, or Woodrow Wilson, Nixon, Harding, Hoover, FDR?
No, they were not even asked to do so.
So by showing his certification of live birth, which is the legal document issued by the State of Hawaii proving birth in Hawaii, Obama has done more than required. And, let us remember that there is not a shred of proof that Obama was born in Kenya or in any place other than Hawaii.
The officials in Hawaii have gone beyond the document itself. They have stated that the document is accurate based on the contents of the files in their records.
This blog, a conservative blog, puts it better than I can:
http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2008/11/worldnetdaily_v.html
on Nov 28th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Re: Why doesn’t Obama provide a copy of his original birth certificate?
Please read the long posting on this site.
http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2008/11/worldnetdaily_v.html
It shows that the legal document that is issued by the state is the certification of live birth. Hospital documents showing birth are often not accepted for legal purposes.
So the first reason that he does not provide a copy of the hospital record is that it is not a legal document. The second reason is that the government certification of live birth IS the state’s legal document, and it has been confirmed by officials in that state after looking into Obama’s file.
The third reason is that we have never demanded a birth certificate from a president or presidential candidate before. Think about it, did we ask to see FDR’s birth certificate? Nixon’s? Hoover’s? JFK’s or the passports of either of the two Bushes?
No one would believe a document posted on a Web site. It would inevitably draw nutcases claiming that it was forged.
So, the folks who want him to post a hospital document or original birth certificate are just asking for the chance to claim that it is forged.
Why not wait until a court asks to see it? But what if a court does not ask to see the document? You lose, of course. But did you ever seriously believe the crazy theory that Obama was born in Kenya?
on Nov 29th, 2008 at 7:46 am
On Dec 5 the Supreme Court will either allow or disallow the usurpation of both the Constitution and the Government of the United States — easily the most pivotal decision since our nation’s founding — and the silence of the news media is deafening (if not downright scary).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH7rSHcvgU
on Nov 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
We can argue about day in and day out but the SC will decide and in the end Obama will have to show he is legit. Its the Job of the US Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution. Regardless of their party affiliation the MUST do what the Constitution says cause that is why they are there.
In the End I think Obama will be taken off the ticket and he will not get the electoral vote on Dec 15th.
How it will pan out once he is removed is beyond me.
on Nov 30th, 2008 at 4:34 am
I can’t believe the audacity of justice souter, any third grade student(incidentally, the constitution is written at a third-grade reading level (as is mandated in the [C]onstitutional [R]ules of
[S]tatutorey construction.) will tell you that the answer asto whom may raise this question is contained in the first three words of the Constitution….[ WE THE PEOPLE]… that means any who woulld ask, and that is a american citizen[.] there is no other requirement, due to the fact that all additional entries to the Constitution are not to detract with thier predessessing lines[.]
or in other words, They may not contridict any pre-existing lines, as they would rais unacceptable conflict within itself which is Constitutionally Barred…..
on Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
By reasoning, shouldn’t he have to show his drivers license?
A COLB has been shown, oh, Im sorry, it’s been disputed on youtube by an anonymous PhD in using scanners.. WTF????????
And, if you blow up the COLB on your comp with the video posted today, you can see the video’s COLB has clearly been altered fro, that on dailykos.org… the same one they claim to be displaying in the video.
WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW
what is berg doing with people who lie so easily???
on Dec 2nd, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Re: “The issue is that we should expect our President to at least be transparent enough to show a simple document required for almost anything in this country.”
Yes. He showed his legal birth certificate. The Certification of Live Birth he posted (and showed the physical document to FactCheck and Polifact) IS the legal birth document for the state of Hawaii. IT is the document you show to get a driver’s license, and you show it to the Sate Department to get a passport. And it says on it that Obama was born in Hawaii.
This fellow puts it better than I can:
A posting from Andrew Walden, publisher of the Hawaii Free Press, a right-wing blog based in Hawaii.
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/92/Barack-Obama-Born-in-Hawaii.aspx
Barack Obama: Born in Hawai`i
by Andrew Walden
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It is time to focus on REAL issues, not imaginary ones.
A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense, which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai`i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.
Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers require submission of a copy of the birth certificate to print a birth announcement.
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on Dec 2nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Thats not true smrstrauss. A certificate of Live Birth is just that. It is not and never has been a Birth Certificate.
Why in Gods earth would anyone wanting to be POTUS spend THOUSANDS of dollars and hiring massive Big Time Lawyers to fight not showing his Birth Certificate unless there was something there that would make a difference some how or another ???
Why ?????
The only logical conclusion can be he either cant produce said document or if he does provide said document it will have something on it that will disqualify him.
Please give me an excuse as to why you would fight something so silly if you have nothing to hide ??
on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Re: That’s not true smrstrauss. A certificate of Live Birth is just that. It is not and never has been a Birth Certificate.
Yes it is a birth certificate.
A certification of live birth is a new, more legalistic term for a birth certificate. Many states use the term “certification of live birth” to indicate a birth certificate. As you can see from the definitions below, a birth certificate is merely a legal document giving the details of the birth. In Obama’s case, the certification comes from the State of Hawaii.
Definition (1): A copy of the official document giving details of a person’s birth.
Definition (2): legal birth document, legal document stating details of a child’s birth.
Definition (3): A formal document normally issued by a government body responsible for the registration of vital statistics within a particular jurisdiction.
Source: http://www.new2-geaneology.com/genealogical-
Definition (4) An official form recording the birth of a baby and containing pertinent data, as name, sex, date, place, and parents.
Definition (5): An official record of the date and place of a person’s birth, usually including the names of the parents.
Definition (6): a copy of an official record of a person’s date and place of birth and parentage. ( Merriam-Webster )
McCain’s birth certificate says “certificate of birth,” which isn’t so different from “certification of live birth.”
McCain’ birth certificate (I believe):
http://panamajohn.dominates.us/articles/McCain_Certificate_1_1936×2.jpg
If you go to the Hawaii Department of Health and search for birth certificate, you get this:
http://hawaii.gov/health/search/index_html?cx=008614832104715764781%3A3c5q13xyuz4&cof=FORID%3A11&q=birth+certificate&sa=Search#1004
And if you follow every reference, each one refers you to the document that the state of Hawaii sends out these days. It sends out only one kind of official birth document (other than to those that want to prove that they are Hawaiian by race), and the one kind of document it sends out is the certification of live birth.
This fellow puts it better than I can:
A posting from Andrew Walden, publisher of the Hawaii Free Press, a right-wing blog based in Hawaii.
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/92/Barack-Obama-Born-in-Hawaii.aspx
Barack Obama: Born in Hawai`i
by Andrew Walden
It is time to focus on REAL issues, not imaginary ones.
A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense, which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai`i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.
Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers require submission of a copy of the birth certificate to print a birth announcement.
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Now, as to why Obama has fought the releasing of anything else than his official birth certificate from the state of Hawaii, which he has voluntarily released, placed on line, and it was authenticated by the officials in Hawaii and the facts on it were verified subsequently by the same officials.
(1) Because it is not necessary. The official document from the state of Hawaii is the definitive proof that someone was born in Hawaii. A hospital birth record is often NOT accepted by government agencies.
(2) Because in nearly all cases the birth certificate is not the only issue. For example, Berg also claims that Obama is not eligible and no one is eligible to be president simply because of dual nationality (http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/1/) Berg also claims that Obama lost his citizenship due to being adopted by his stepfather in Indonesia. (This would not be shown on the original birth record in any case. It might be shown on an amended birth record, but not on his original birth record.)
(3) Because defending your rights is part of the oath public officials take which is to preserve the Constitution. The Berg case, for example, quotes as law the Nationality Act of 1940, which is a fairly stupid thing for a lawyer to do, because the Nationality Act of 1940 was struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1963 (http://supreme.justia.com/us/372/144/index.html), and besides the right NOT to show a highly private document, such as an original birth certificate, is a RIGHT.
(4) Because in most cases Obama really isn’t taking any expensive legal action. He is just riding along with the cases that are being fought by the state governments (in Hawaii representing the Department of Health, in other cases the state election commissions) and by the US federal government, the Federal Election Commission. These authorities would fight these cases in any case. If Obama were to give up and not send a lawyer at all, the Hawaii government, the other state governments and the Federal Election Commission (represented by the US Solicitor General) would still be fighting the cases, arguing that the plaintiffs have no standing to sue.
(5) Because he was never asked nicely for the document. The plaintiffs DEMANDED the document as their right. Well, it may not be their right.
(6) The issue of placing the original birth document on line, which some among the right-wing bloggers are calling for is slightly different from giving it up to the plaintiffs in the law cases. If it were to be placed on line, it would immediately draw critics who claimed that it was forged, as they did with the official certification of live birth (which as Walden comments, is not forged.)
(7) Because the original birth records are the property of the state of Hawaii, and they do NOT release them normally. You may well have to get a court-order to get the original birth records (some blogs say), and why should Obama pay money to a lawyer to seek a court order to get his birth records, when, if one of the cases against him are successful, there would be a court order automatically demanding the original records?
(8) Because he is busy.
(9) Because, the idea of putting his original birth records on line is only being urged by right-wing blogs and the ads of the far right-wing (not McCain or the Republican Party, you notice) and why should he make them happy?
(10) Because putting his original birth records on line (IF possible, as I noted above, it may not even be possible) would simply get more people thinking the crazy theory that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya in the ninth month of pregnancy at a time when you had to get a Yellow Fever shot, and then she lied about it for the rest of her life.
(11) Because the people who are asking me to put the original records on line think that my mother lied. Why should I make them happy?
(12) Because if I put the original birth records on line (IF possible, as noted), they will ask to see other documents, like say Obama’s marriage license.
(13) Because the people who are asking to see the original birth certificate are lazy. After all, their real intent is to try to find something that proves Obama was born in Kenya, or lost his citizenship. Well, it is really up to them to find that out. I mean, if Obama had been born in Kenya, there would be official records in Kenya, at least of his mother having traveled to Kenya.
(14) Because McCain and the Republican party aren’t asking for it.