This video explains the entire issue very well and shows how the MSNBC article was misleading. Just another piece of this puzzle:
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on Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
On Dec 5 the Supreme Court will either allow or disallow the usurpation of both the Constitution and the Government of the United States — easily the most pivotal decision since our nation’s founding — and the silence of the news media is deafening (if not downright scary).
on Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
You say that Hawaii allows registration of birth in Hawaii of persons born outside of Hawaii.
This is true, now. But it was not true in 1961, and it is not true now and NEVER was true that Hawaii allowed someone to register someone who was born outside of Hawaii and receive a document that said that she or he was born inside of Hawaii.
Why not? Well for the obvious reason that if they did, a Hawaii official birth record could be used to obtain citizenship for someone who was not eligible to have citizenship. Hawaii did not do this, and does not do this.
It turns out that the certification of live birth issued by Hawaii, which says on it three times that Obama was born in Hawaii, is the only official document issued by Hawaii relative to birth (except perhaps to native Hawaiians by race who are trying to prove that fact). A hospital birth record is not an official document. It is often not accepted by governments for issuing drivers licenses, and it is certainly not accepted by the State Department.
So Obama has shown his certification of live birth. It is an official document. It says (three times) that he was born in Hawaii. Hawaii never issues a certification of live birth to someone who was not born in Hawaii that says that they were born in Hawaii, and the officials in Hawaii say that they have looked into the files and found evidence that the certification is accurate.
Moreover, the theory that Obama was born in Kenya is crazy. It requires that Obama’s mother traveled in the ninth month of pregnancy, at a time when you had to get a Yellow Fever shot to go to Africa, and that IF she went to Kenya, there are no official records of her arriving in Kenya (due perhaps to the Kenyan government being part of the conspiracy) and no existing photographs of her in Kenya or of Obama with his grandparents. Crazy.
So (1) There is an official record, confirmed by officials who have no reason to lie, that Obama was born in Kenya. (2) There is no evidence that Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii.
on Nov 30th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
You say that Hawaii allows registration of birth in Hawaii of persons born outside of Hawaii.
This is true, now. But it was not true in 1961, and it is not true now and NEVER was true that Hawaii allowed someone to register someone who was born outside of Hawaii and receive a document that said that she or he was born inside of Hawaii.
Why not? Well for the obvious reason that if they did, a Hawaii official birth record could be used to obtain citizenship for someone who was not eligible to have citizenship. Hawaii did not do this, and does not do this.
It turns out that the certification of live birth issued by Hawaii, which says on it three times that Obama was born in Hawaii, is the only official document issued by Hawaii relative to birth (except perhaps to native Hawaiians by race who are trying to prove that fact). A hospital birth record is not an official document. It is often not accepted by governments for issuing drivers licenses, and it is certainly not accepted by the State Department.
So Obama has shown his certification of live birth. It is an official document. It says (three times) that he was born in Hawaii. Hawaii never issues a certification of live birth to someone who was not born in Hawaii that says that they were born in Hawaii, and the officials in Hawaii say that they have looked into the files and found evidence that the certification is accurate.
Moreover, the theory that Obama was born in Kenya is crazy. It requires that Obama’s mother traveled in the ninth month of pregnancy, at a time when you had to get a Yellow Fever shot to go to Africa, and that IF she went to Kenya, there are no official records of her arriving in Kenya (due perhaps to the Kenyan government being part of the conspiracy) and no existing photographs of her in Kenya or of Obama with his grandparents. Crazy.
So (1) There is an official record, confirmed by officials who have no reason to lie, that Obama was born in Hawaii. (2) There is no evidence that Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii.